The PA Job Search: What to Look For

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About this time last year, I was nervously getting ready to start my final 2 rotations at the dermatology office that so graciously decided to take me on as a new grad.  Looking back, that job search was a bit exhausting and honestly there were some tears involved.  I love my job, and I feel very fortunate as this is my first position, but I thought it may be helpful to share some of the things I learned along the way.  As a new grad, you're excited and ready to get out into the working work, but getting there takes some effort.

So congratulations if you just graduated/are graduating soon, or if you are finding yourself looking for a new position and leave a comment below if you have any other tips!

What to Look For:

So when looking for a job, I've read multiple theories and recommendations about what you should focus on.  You have to decide what's important for you personally.  It seems to me the more essential aspects of a Physician Assistant job are - location, specialty, supervising physician, salary/benefits.

You need to rank these factors in order of importance to you.  A year on rotations should have helped to make it a little more clear what your priorities are.  I decided that having a great supervising physician and doing something I loved were more important to me than salary.  In my opinion, I would much rather wake up and want to go to work than dread my job or who I'm going to work with.

Location is important if you have an area you really love or family you want to be near. I was raised in Augusta and went to PA school in Augusta. My husband is still in medical school here, so that was an obvious choice for me. If location isn't as important to you, it may be a great opportunity to try out a new place and get some experience so later you can find your dream job in your dream location.

Rotations give you a good idea of what areas you do and don't want to work in. The main questions that came up for me were sick vs not sick and appointment vs walk-in and procedures vs no procedures and continuity of care. I'll explain that a little more because I didn't really get it until I was in the field.  When it comes down to specialty as well, I will mention that it seems any experience you have makes you very valuable for other fields, so I think it is much better to have an open mind when starting your job search.

Sick vs not sick - Some specialties you see "sick" patients, which I consider the ones that have things you could catch. This includes pediatrics, family medicine, internal medicine, urgent care, and ER. Other specialties like dermatology, pulmonology, cardiology, hem/onc, GYN, and lots of others have patients that may have diseases that make them very sick, but they aren't going to cough on you so you could catch it.  Personally, I didn't love seeing the flu and strep throat all winter long.  And when other students say you should plan on getting sick on your pediatrics rotation, it's absolutely true.  (And sidenote - go to the doctor or health clinic when you start feeling sick, and not the last day of your rotation, so maybe you can avoid being diagnosed with pneumonia like me.)  A lot of the patients I see in dermatology have very real, serious disease that affects their lives, so I definitely still feel like I'm helping patients even though I'm not seeing the acutely "sick" ones.

Appointment vs walk-in - If you're working in private practice, you will likely have a schedule of patient appointments that you are expected to stay pretty much on time with.  If you are good at time management and a fairly quick decision maker, this should be fine for you.  The frustrating thing about having a set schedule is that it can easily get thrown off by late or complicated patients.  It's personally very important to me to stay on time out of respect for my patient's time, but there are definitely days where it seems like everyone is complicated, so they need more time (and I'm becoming a little more okay with that.)  Areas like urgent care, emergency med, or being in the hospital will mean that your patients just show up or are already there.  This has it's advantages because you don't have to worry as much about the late patients or your own punctuality, and it's ok if you need to take longer with some patients.  The disadvantages to not knowing your schedule for the day mean it's a bit of a surprise, and you can't predict as well if your day will be slow or hectic.

Procedures vs no procedures - This is pretty straightforward, but if you loved surgery and getting to do things with your hands, then you probably want to do something where you can do procedures.  I would say in most specialties there's at least a possibility of being able to do some hands-on stuff.  Specialties that are more lab-based (ex - endocrinology) may not have as much going on there.  General or family practice is a bit of a toss-up because there are some that do their own injections and even biopsies, and then other practices that don't do any of this.  So that's just something to consider when looking for what field you want to be in.

Continuity of Care - It was really important to me that I know how my patients are doing after I treat them, and I wanted to be able to build relationships with my patients.  You may get a little bit of this in urgent care or emergency med, but usually when you recognize a name there it's not a good thing.

Now on to supervising physician(s).  It's much easier to work under one SP, but sometimes if you're looking at working for a large practice or hospital, that's not going to be the case. I cannot stress how much having a supportive SP who is willing to adequately train and teach you is important.  My SP will stop what she's doing, even if she's running behind, to come see a patient if I ask her to.  You also want a SP that will support your decisions, and although they may not agree and will tell you that in private, they should never throw you under the bus in front of a patient.  There's a saying that if a patient sees a bad doctor, they'll find another doctor, but if they see a bad PA, they'll never see another PA.  I think that's true because most patients still have a little bit of a difficult time understanding what a PA is and what we can do, so they are quick to lose faith if something happens.

Now for salary and benefits.  I have a much different opinion on this than other PAs from things I've read and discussions I've had.  I definitely believe in not being lowballed, but I also believe in being willing to accept a fair offer, especially as a new grad.  It is going to take both money and time, and probably mistakes, to train you to be a good PA.  And you have to weigh the worth of location, supervising physician, and experience you will gain.  So really look at everything involved, and not just the number.  Is there a bonus structure in place?  That can potentially make a huge difference.  There's a lot out there that says you should never take a job if it's less than the national average and that new grads should be making 90K+.  I think this is possible, but is not necessarily the norm, so you have to be realistic.  Also, consider vacation/sick time, CME days and money, insurance, retirement, and just quality of life.

I recently sat down with Lianne Hahn for a three part series on my Youtube channel where we discuss Resumes and CVs for PA School and Physician Assistant Jobs, Interviewing for PA Jobs, and Contracts and Negotiations for Physician Assistants. Make sure to check out the series and subscribe to The PA Platform on Youtube!

What are some of the things you are looking for in a job?  What helped you make the decision to take a certain job?


How to Stay Sane in PA School

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If you are just applying to PA school or just starting in a program, it may not have hit you just how intense it is.  When they say the program will pretty much become your life for the next 2+ years, they mean it!  But with all of the studying and multiple tests per week, you have to take care of yourself and find some way of maintaining your sanity. Here are some of the tips that helped me to get through it all.

Find some friends!

When you start PA school, you're going to be meeting a lot of people who are pretty similar to you and ya'll will become fast friends.  A strong support system of people who can relate to what you're going through is so important.  You'll not only be spending hours together during the day, but it also helps to have someone to study with, take a break with, or even cry with.  Some of my best friends have come from PA school, and as much as I love my family and the friends it definitely helps to have someone to commiserate with who can actually empathize.

Stay Active!

It can become very easy to feel like you need to devote every waking second to studying, but you need to take care of yourself.  By working out or doing something active, it will most likely help to relax you and get some of your focus off of the vigorous routine of school.  I personally do not enjoy working out a ton, but my friends would invite me to the gym and encourage me to work out with them and I'm so glad I did.  You are probably already paying for a gym membership as part of your fees so take advantage of it!  If your school offers intramurals those are also fun.

Get Involved!

There's no reason to lose your interests while you're in PA school.  If you loved volunteering at the animal shelter or nursing home before school, you may not be able to do it as frequently, but it will benefit you in the long run if you make the time to do what you love.  Or if there's a way that you feel like your class would be able to help people then do it!  A few classes above us started a free monthly screening clinic downtown in an underserved area, and it's still going strong!  You can also consider becoming an officer or joining a committee if that's your thing.

It's OK to not Study 24/7!

And you will probably go crazy if you do!  One of my biggest regrets during PA school is that during the first 2 semesters I would literally turn down any invitation to do anything.  Even if it was just going to Mexican food with my parents (which would likely take about 30 minutes) or going to church.  During the 2nd half of didactic year and especially now, I realize that PA school and being a PA is not my life or my complete identity, so I hope that you figure that out before I did.  I also fully support recreational reading while in school because that is something I missed so much!

Enjoy where you're at!

This is something a lot of people in my class struggled with.  They would refer to Augusta as "Disgusta," and while it may not be the most exciting place in the world there's plenty going on.  Some of my classmates just couldn't wait to get back home and I think it made their experience more miserable than it had to be.  Learn how to enjoy where you've been placed because it is likely for a short time, and there's no reason you shouldn't have a good time!

Here is a post from a fellow blogger with her tips on if you are just starting PA school.   And she is finding ways to not only stay sane, but to do it with kids!  I'm not there yet, so check out her blog if you want advice on surviving PA school as a parent.  

What are your tips for making the most out of PA school and maintaining your sanity?


Dermatology Resources

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After I graduated, I went straight into working in dermatology.  During didactic year in school, we got about 2 weeks of derm, and it makes up a whopping 5% of the PANCE.  Those 2 weeks and some dermatology shadowing I did before were enough to spark my interest in the field, but not quite enough to make me feel confident enough to know what I really needed to.  I am extremely lucky to have a great supervising physician and I was able to do my 2 elective rotations in dermatology, so that was helpful, but even after being at my job for almost 3 years, I still find myself looking up information multiple times daily!  Today, I'm going to share with you some resources I found helpful while in school and what I currently use in practice!

In school:

  • AAD Basic Dermatology Curriculum - The American Academy of Dermatology has a specific curriculum for medical education, and it's awesome.  The lessons are thorough and a great overview of some basic dermatology topics that are likely to come up both on boards and rotations.  They don't take a ton of time, and I think are definitely worth taking a look at.
  • Dermatology Secrets Plus - This is a small, simple book that is filled with pictures, which are so helpful in dermatology.  I used this book during didactic year, and I still refer to it occasionally in practice as a quick reference.  Not the best book if you are looking for every detail on a subject, but more of a quick overview w/ pics.

In practice:

  • UpToDate -  I recommend UpToDate for any specialty really!  Like the title says, it has the most current information and is updated regularly.  One of my favorite features is print outs for patients!  These are so helpful, and the majority of the time there is one for what I'm looking for.  The drug information is also very specific and always provides exactly what I'm looking for, including dosage and how the medication is supplied.
  • VisualDx - This is a resource that I use on a daily basis.  I pull it up on the computer as soon as I get to work to have it ready to go!  You can look up multiple dermatologic subjects and there is a huge photo library with great examples, and it provides all the info you need to know, including pearls, diagnosis methods, differentials, and treatment.  There's a really nice accompanying app as well!
  • Habif's Clinical Dermatology - This is the first actual textbook I got for derm when I started working, and I have used it a bunch!  For a textbook, this one is very easy to read. My one complaint is that sometimes it does lack some of the details I'm looking for so I'll visit my supervising physician's library to borrow one of her books. 
  • Practical Dermatology- Practical Dermatology is my favorite journal for getting all of the up and coming derm news.  It's very easy to read and the topics tend to be more common things that I actually want to read and learn about.
  • Litt's Drug Eruption and Reaction Manual - Possibly my most helpful book.  This is my go to for any rashes that could be caused by drugs. It lists every medication and the possible side effects.  Great for my itching, photosensitive, and hairloss patients when medications are involved. 
  • Wolverton Comprehensive Dermatologic Drug Therapy - This is the most in depth book about dermatology medications. If I have any question about side effects, contraindications, dosing, etc, this is my go to.  UpToDate is great, but this is strictly derm, and sometimes I just sit and read it. (Nerd alert)
  • Andrews' Diseases of the Skin and Bolognia's Dermatology - These are my supervising physician's favorite books. She can actually just pick one of these up and turn to the page she wants because she used them so much during residency.  It's amazing! But they have so much detail and every obscure derm disorder ever. 
  • SDPA Diplomate Fellowship Program - I've just started these modules, but so far, they are very well done. This is training specifically for derm PAs, and it follows Bolognia's Dermatology Essentials

Some of these links are affiliates, which means if you use them, I get a small cut from Amazon, but you pay the same low prices and get your Prime shipping! I hope that some of these are helpful to you, and please comment with any other resources you love to use!