Getting Into PA School as a Humanities Major - Guest Post by Carrie Gold

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It was a few months ago now that I got exactly the phone call I had been hoping to get. It came on a weekday evening, and when I saw the area code, I stepped into the bedroom to take the call privately.

 “Hello Carrie!” It was the director of a program I had interviewed at. “We want to invite you to be part of our incoming class.”

 I had done it. I had gotten into PA school.

During the difficult process of applying, I had met individuals from a whole range of backgrounds—from students just finishing up undergrad, to a real estate agent looking to change careers, to an MD from another country who wanted to be able to practice in the US (“I’ve delivered over 800 babies!” he told me). Even so, my own background was not one I encountered during prerequisite classes and while chatting with others at interviews: One with a background in the humanities.

 “The humanities” is the academic term for non-science, technology, engineering, and math studies. It includes majors like English literature, American studies, philosophy, art history, and film studies. For me, it was foreign languages. I started taking French in eighth grade and was immediately captivated. I added Spanish in high school.

 I knew I wanted to teach foreign languages. I graduated with a Bachelor’s of Arts and got a job right away as a French and Spanish teacher for a junior high and high school. I started my master’s the next year.

 I had also, since I was little, always been interested in medicine. And by the time I got into my seventh year of teaching, there were multiple factors in my life (that I won’t go into here) that made me start seriously considering PA school. I was teaching at a small charter school at the time. At the end of the school year, when the principal sat me down and told me was no budget for me to teach there the following year, it clenched the decision.  

 What followed was a process I’m sure you’re all familiar with: a schedule of volunteering and shadowing, and lots and lots of studying. By the time I started working on my CASPA application, I was realizing there were a lot of competitive applicants out there who had backgrounds and experiences that I just couldn’t bring to the table. Why would anyone accept me to their PA program when the other applicants were respiratory therapists and EMTs and biology majors who spent the last five years working as a medical assistant? wouldn’t choose me for a program.

 But then I started to realize: Maybe I didn’t have a science degree, but I had already successfully completed a master’s degree and knew how to succeed academically. I hadn’t worked with a lot of patients, but as a public-school teacher, I was responsible for doing my best to care for all the students—of all types, backgrounds, and needs—who came to me. I started to realize: No, I didn’t have a traditional background for a PA school applicant, but I had unique experiences and traits that could help me become a good PA—and that other applicants didn’t have.  

 I began to focus not on what I didn’t have because of my non-traditional background, but on the strengths I could bring to the table. And coming from a humanities background really did give me some strengths! That’s what I wanted to share with any other humanities majors out there who are working on applying to PA school: That you might not have the same experiences as other applicants, but that your background is also great preparation for PA school.

 Strengths humanities majors bring to the table when applying for PA school

1.     You stick out

I taught school for seven years. I can tell you from experience that when I had 200+ students, I did not remember every name, face, and story that went with it, even though I wanted to. But there were always memorable students who stuck out—and not always for the reasons you might think. Yes, the enthusiastic, high-scoring Hermione Granger clone was one. But so was the goofball who made me laugh…and so was the troublemaker. Really, it didn’t matter what it was. I remembered the students who were distinctive.   

 If you start looking at the stats pages of different PA programs, you’ll start seeing that it’s normal for them to have 1,000+ applicants for maybe fifty spots. And I can tell you from experience: The faculty simply cannot keep every applicant straight in their minds. What does this mean? It means it’s a huge strength to stand out. Being the one Spanish Teaching major in a sea of biology degrees does that, and I think your degree in humanities will, too.


2.     You’ve been trained to think critically

 When I decided to apply to PA school, I needed all the prerequisite courses. My first was biology. I studied hard; the topics covered seemed oddly detailed and specific to me, though—who could possibly remember every step of the Kreb’s Cycle? Instead of focusing on those details, I studied the way I had while working on my bachelor’s and master’s degrees: I looked for patterns and common themes, and studied long enough that I had a general overview of the material. I went into the first exam feeling confident.

When we got our exams back, I saw I had scored just above failing.

 Immediately, I started studying differently. I realized that yes, was supposed to memorize the steps of the Kreb’s Cycle, and one of the biggest changes I made to my new studying technique was that I started focusing more on memorization (so many flashcards!). I earned a C+ in that class, but after, I’m proud to say, adjusting how I studied got me an A or A- in all my other prerequisites classes.  

 I tell this story for two reasons. First, to illustrate that a background in the humanities might mean you’re going to have to figure out a different way of studying—but at the same time, that you’re completely capable of doing so. The second reason, though, is to highlight what a humanities education emphasizes, namely: to think critically.

 My BA and MA didn’t teach me to memorize facts. Instead, like how I approached that biology class, they taught me to assemble information, to look for patterns, and to draw conclusions. Those classes taught me to think critically: Why is this like it is? How does it work? What conclusions about this information can I now apply to other areas?

 Even if this isn’t always how you need to study while working on becoming a PA, it’s something that will serve you well. I’m pretty sure the better clinician would be not the one who can regurgitate memorized facts, but the one who can analyze the facts and connect the dots. And that’s what a humanities education does so well in teaching you how to do: to think critically.

3.     You can write

 So much of my time as a humanities student was spent writing. As an undergrad, I was assigned to write a personal narrative, and wrote about a service trip to Mexico my family had taken. In one of my first teaching classes, the professor had us practice writing clear, concise directions for worksheets. As a graduate student, I had to write a long paper analyzing the use of proper nouns in a piece of Mexican literature.

 These assignments were part of what helped me learn critical thinking. There was another outcome from writing, though: I learned how to write. On the PA Platform, we often hear Savanna explain that your personal statement gets you yourinterview, and your interview gets you accepted. As a humanities major, you’ve had excellent preparation to write a solid personal statement that will help you do just that. It can’t hurt later, either, when you need to write clear patient notes.

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4.     You can communicate

 Several years ago, I had some odd spots showing up on my legs. I asked my family practitioner about them. He glanced at them from across the room and pronounced that they would go away on their own. Later, I mentioned the experience to my mom, who helped me set up an appointment with a dermatologist she knew personally. At the appointment, the physician looked carefully at the spots, explained his thought process in analyzing the situation, explained each of the additional diagnostic tests he performed, and explained what he wanted me to do next.

 The issue did eventually resolve itself; at the same time, I had left one appointment annoyed and concerned, and the other completely reassured. The difference? How the practitioners communicated with me.  

 Communication is an incredibly important skill for a healthcare provider. As a humanities major, you spend time reading and writing, analyzing rhetoric, and examining what people have said. You studied how people have gotten their messages across—and you’ve practiced getting across your own. Being able to communicate matters. Studying the humanities gives you great preparation in doing so.

 
5.     You’ve studied the human experience. You’ve learned that humanity is diverse and complex, and you’ve learned to respect it.

 When I told people I was a high school French and Spanish teacher, I often got the same reaction: “Oh, I took two years of Spanish in high school. I don’t remember a thing!” For this reason, I tried to emphasize to my students the benefits of studying a foreign language—even if they didn’t become totally fluent. I would talk to them about how taking a foreign language taught them about other countries, how it showed them different cultures have different values, and how it helped them learn to respect differences.   

 In a similar way, the objective of a degree in the humanities isn’t just for you to learn the content of famous literature or which artist started Cubism. Literature, music, and art are about capturing the human experience. I believe when you study those things in depth, you get a better understanding of what it means to be human, and, most importantly, you learn to respect that, so often, that human experience is very different from your own. In my PA school interviews, I talked about how being a teacher was about caring for anyone who came to me—in the same way that becoming a PA will be about caring for individuals of different socioeconomic levels and cultural backgrounds. That’s exactly what your humanities background has been preparing you to do: To give the best care for the individual, which is based fundamentally on respect for who they are.

Finally, some tips:

 Being a humanities major at first felt like a disadvantage when I was in the process of applying for PA school. I realized, though, that it offers several strengths. Here’s my advice for making the most of them when you’re applying:

·    Rather than being intimidated by more traditional majors, be proud of your background. It helps you stand out, and it gives you qualities that other applicants won’t have.
·      Think about what skills and qualities your background in humanities taught you that will help make you a good PA student and a great PA. For me, this included things like being trained to think critically about a situation, learning to communicate effectively, and learning to respect cultural differences.  
·      Take time to write down a list of these special skills and qualities. After, write down a personal experience or two that is a concrete illustration of each one.
·      Write your personal statement and practice for interviews in a way that highlights these unique experiences and traits. As much as possible, show don’t tell. Talking about a personal experience goes a lot farther than just listing words that sound good.
·      Understand that different programs are looking for different kinds of students. Looking at what requirements a program has is a great clue. I didn’t get accepted to the program that, compared with the other programs I applied to, required the fewest number of classes but the greatest number of patient care hours—which made sense. They were clearly looking for someone with lots of practical experience. I did get into programs that emphasized Spanish and serving underserved populations, traits that fit with my resume.
·      Finally, knowledge is power. Keep learning about each step of the application process: Study up on each program you’re applying for, learn about different ways to study if you’re struggling in classes, make sure you understand CASPA, get feedback on your personal statement, and buy an interview prep book. 

Carrie blogs about mental health at LivingWiththeBlue.com. You can also find her on Instagram at @LivingWiththeBlue


Accepted: Cindy - UC Davis

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Undergraduate education: Major in kinesiology, Minor in psychology

Overall GPA: 3.47

Science GPA: 3.26

GRE: Combined score: 295 writing score: 4.0

Total HCE hours: 2,466

Total PCE hours: 3,328

Shadowing hours: 307

Other volunteer hours: 124 volunteer hours. 54 kinesiology club hours. 324 leadership hours.

LORs: 1: MD 1: PA-C 1: employer manager 1: undergrad professor

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 24

Gender: Female

Why PA? To be in the optimal position to make a difference in our population’s future in health. And to be able to collaborate with a team of other healthcare professionals while doing so.

How many programs did you apply to? 10

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 4 interviews 3 waitlists

Where will you be attending? UC Davis

Anything you found surprising about interviews? The faculty were a lot more warming and welcoming than expected. They literally just want to get to know who you are. It was hard for me to remember that the faculty literally know nothing about who I am. So it’s up to me to open myself up and share my experiences thoughts and strengths with them.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps) you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or interview process? How to ace the physician assistant interview by Andrew Rodican. How to write your physician assistant personal statement by Stephan Pasquini. The PA platform. PAschoolforum blog. PAEA program directory.

Any other advice for other pre-PA students? It’s important to double check the small details in program’s requirements and then triple check again. I was automatically denied from a couple programs due to small details that I had overlooked such as an English course minimum grade or biology courses needing to be a sequence rather than just a set amount of credits. Getting closer to interview season, it’s important to self reflect on your passion and why this profession is important to you and think about ways you can verbalize that during your interviews. Also remember that these schools are investing in you as a student by giving you a seat in their program. So make sure to sell yourself as a student and give the faculty no reason to doubt your commitment or success in their program. But don’t forget to let your personality shine. Nothing’s worse than a robotic rehearsed answer that is not personable. Just take a moment, breathe and relax before your interviews. You got this! You’re a commodity, let it be known :)

Where can we find you? Instagram: cindylouuu__


Accepted: Ashley - University of North Texas Health Science Center

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Undergraduate education: Austin College

Overall GPA: 3.56

Science GPA: 3.43

GRE: 296

Total HCE hours: 355

Total PCE hours: 187 at time of application (465 when accepted)

Shadowing hours: 138 (PA and Doctor)

Other volunteer hours: 60 (Meals on Wheels and Hospice Care)

LORs: Pre-health Adviser, Chemistry Professor, Patient Advocate that I volunteered with, Doctor I shadowed, PA I shadowed

How many times did you apply?:  2

Age: 22

Gender: Female

How many programs did you apply to? Six the first time and nine this cycle

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? I received no interview invites the first time I applied in 2018. This cycle, I received three interviews! I went to the first two interviews and declined the third interview. I was accepted into the first two schools I interviewed with! I was declined from one school shortly after applying and I have not heard back from the other five schools yet.

Where will you be attending? University of North Texas Health Science Center!!

Anything you found surprising about interviews? My first interview was MMI and they were right when people said to be ready for them to throw anything at you! I was very surprised by all the tasks they made us do, but I actually did enjoy the process even though I did not think I would! (My next interview was a very laid back 1:1) Honestly, be yourself!! And, what I think made me stand out was the confidence I portrayed. (and funny enough, even though I was almost sick to my stomach from nerves during the drive to both interviews, I was not nervous at all when I actually walked into the building and started my interviews!)

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps) you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or interview process? In preparation for interviews, I (of course) read Savanna's PA School Interview Guide! I think I read this book cover to cover four different times. I also recorded videos of myself answering most of the questions in the book and had family members do mock interviews with me quite often.

Any other advice for other pre-PA students? After being so discouraged from the first time I applied, I never would have imagined that the second time I applied that I would get into my top choice PA program! I still cannot believe it. Just know that it will happen for you one day! If I can do it, so can you! Everything happens in time so do not give up. Take your disappointments and use them to fuel your determination to accomplish your dreams!

Where can we find you? Instagram: ash_boehm


Accepted: Bridget - Shenandoah University

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Undergraduate education: Texas State University BS in Respiratory Care

Overall GPA: 3.13

Science GPA: 3.16

GRE: 292

Total HCE hours: 12

Total PCE hours: 7,000+ as a respiratory therapist

Shadowing hours: 400

Other volunteer hours: 120

LORs: MD, MD (Medical director of ER I worked at ) Microbiology Professor

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 27

Gender: Female

How many programs did you apply to? 25

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? So far 2 invites (interviewed at one so far & accepted)

Where will you be attending? Shenandoah University

Anything you found surprising about interviews? They truly want you to be yourself!!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps) you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or interview process? PA Resources used for my Personal Statement. Savanna’s interview book, podcast, interview course, and mock interview with Erin

Any other advice for other pre-PA students? Keep focus on the goal, envision what you want and continue to push yourself.

Where can we find you? On Instagram @bridgetjanecek or Facebook!


Accepted: Brianna - University of Bridgeport

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Undergraduate education: Bachelor in Kinesiolgy at The University of Massachusetts Amherst

Overall GPA: 3.48

Science GPA: 3.48

GRE: Did not take it!

Total PCE hours: About 1,450 at the time of application

Shadowing hours: About 40

Other volunteer hours: 360

LORs: 4 total, 2 from Nurse Practitioners I have been a medical assistant for, 1 professor who I had for 2 courses and was a teaching assistant for, and 1 nurse that I work with.

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 22

Gender: Female

Why PA? My mom died when I was a freshmen in college due to misdiagnosis. This got me extremely interested in the methods of diagnosis and treatment in the medical field and ultimately led me to want to pursue a career as a PA.

How many programs did you apply to? 5

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? I interviewed with one and accepted before I even heard back from the other schools I applied to.

Where will you be attending? University of Bridgeport, CT

Anything you found surprising about interviews? How relaxed they were! The admissions committee really wants to get to know you as a person! My advice is to be confident, smile, and give them a reason to remember you!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps) you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or interview process? I found Savanna Perry's interview prep book extremely helpful as well as the Pre-PA club Facebook group where I would often post questions I had about the process. I also recommend signing up for the Mock Interview through The PA Platform. It helped me build up the confidence I needed for my first ever PA school interview!

Any other advice for other pre-PA students? I know this process can be long and daunting, but don't give up! Use your resources, continue to gain experience, and start the process early. I have confidence that everyone who has a passion to become a PA will fulfill this goal with dedication and hard work.

Where can we find you? Planning on starting an Instragram account prepa_with_bri


Accepted! Benjie - University of Nevada- Reno

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Undergraduate education: Bachelors of Science from The University of Nevada- Reno

Overall GPA: 3.85

Science GPA: 3.86

GRE: Didn’t take

Total HCE hours: 3,200 as a PT-tech

Shadowing hours: 35

Other volunteer hours: 5,000 (20 from coaching basketball and the rest from my religious mission)

LORs: 3 - PA, Professor and Employer

How many times did you apply?:  1

Age: 27

Gender: Male

How many programs did you apply to? 8

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? Invited to 5 so far, interviews at 3, accepted to 2, waitlisted at 1 and denied at 1.

Where will you be attending? University of Nevada - Reno

Anything you found surprising about interviews? The faculty are very aware of how stressful the day can be. For my interviews they were very warm and welcoming which made the day a lot easier!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps) you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or interview process? THE PRE-PA CLUB by The PA Platform! There are so many answers and tools here! For interviewing I used Savanna Perry’s book Physician Assistant School Interview Guide and How to Ace the Physician Assistant School interview Guide. These are a necessity! They helped me feel so prepared and helped me feel confident in my interviews.

Any other advice for other pre-PA students? Find a balance with everything! It’s important to have a well rounded application. Shadowing, volunteering, and variety of HCE are very important, but so is being who you are! Have fun through the journey with your goal in mind and you will achieve it!

Where can we find you? On Instagram @ben_jammin10


Top Pre-PA Posts from 2019 on The PA Platform

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Happy New Year, everyone!

This past year has been full of exciting things for the pre-PAs in our community. I want to take a minute to highlight just a few of the things that happened in the past year:

As 2019 comes to an end and a new decade begins, I wanted to share our top posts from the past year that have been a wealth of resources for pre-PAs!

What is the Easiest PA School to Get Into

What is My CASPA GPA?

PA School vs Medical School

When to Apply to PA School

The Few Disadvantages to Being a PA

Top 100 Interview Questions for PA School

6 Healthcare Jobs That Will Turn You Into the Perfect PA School Applicant

Getting into PA School with a Low GPA

10 Ways to Increase You Chances of Getting Into PA School

Guest Post from Jamie: How to Prepare for End of Rotation (EOR) Exams for PA School

Flashback to My Personal Statement

We are so excited for all of the great things coming to The PA Platform in 2020 and to provide you with even more resources to get into PA School! Let me know what you want to learn more about in the new year, leave a comment below!


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Accepted: Jamie - Emory University

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Undergraduate education: Bachelor’s of Science Biomedical Sciences at UAB; Master’s of Science in Biotechnology from UAB

Overall GPA: 3.2

Science GPA: 3.06

GRE: 312

Total HCE hours: 1.5k as an ED scribe

Total PCE hours: 5k as a pediatric ED tech

Shadowing hours: ~100

Other volunteer hours: 1000 from volunteering at a free clinic and a food pantry

LORs: ED nursing director, ED medical director, ED attending, 1 PA, and my grad school program director

How many times did you apply?:  2

Age: 23

Gender: Female

Why PA? There are so many reasons why I want to be a PA, but I think the big solidifying factor for me was working as a medical scribe. I worked very closely with both MDs and PAs, and noticed very quickly how jaded and unhappy the MDs is at my job were. I quickly noticed, however, how happy the PAs were and how much they enjoyed their job as well as everything outside of medicine. Additionally, the majority of the PAs that I worked with worked in two specialties at once, which was very intriguing to me. I wanted to be able to strike that work life balance and be able to work in various specialties throughout my career

How many programs did you apply to? 19

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 5 before committing to a program. 1 waitlist, 2 acceptances, one rejection, and I withdrew my application from the last place I interviewed because I got the acceptance call from my top choice program

Where will you be attending? Emory University in Atlanta!! 

Anything you found surprising about interviews? I was surprised that all of my interviews were MMI style. I think I was led to believe that this was not common for PA programs, and so it really caught me off guard. I was so nervous for this, but utilized the Pre-PA club podcast, as well as the PA school interview guide. Both of these tools helped me immensely to prepare, and I was so surprised at how much I enjoyed each and every interview. The MMIs were actually so much fun! I felt so at home at most of these programs, and would’ve been happy at several.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps) you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or interview process? I read and re-read the PA School Interview Guide before every interview, because it was that helpful! I’m an auditory learner, so podcasts have been super helpful to me as well. Shout out to the pre-PA club podcast! I was actually really surprised at how much I utilized the pre-PA subReddit, as well as the PA Big Brothers and Sisters Facebook group. Both groups had people who had been through the application process before, and had very good advice. A bunch of people offered to read my personal statement and help me edit it, which was amazing as well!

Any other advice for other pre-PA students? As hard as it was to applied to school with the low GPA, don’t let that discourage you from applying to your dream school. I was shocked that I even got an interview at my top choice due to my grades. There are so many things I can help balance out a lower GPA, like a lot of patient care experience and a killer personal statement. Retake every class that you’ve gotten below a B in, and make an A. What has been surprising to me, is that you can retake courses at other institutions (ie community colleges!!!). Additionally, people think applications are all sunshine and rainbows, but rejection is a true cornerstone of the application process. It’s OK to have to apply more than once, and take a year or two to work on your application! Maximize your chances of acceptance by applying early, and apply to a decent amount of schools. Look at schools that favor holistic review, as well as factor in your last 60 credit hours. They say your chances increase with every school that you applied to, up to about 12, and then those chance to start to plateau.

Accepted: Morgan - University of Pacific

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Undergraduate education: Point Loma Nazarene University- applied health science

Overall GPA: 3.76

Science GPA: 3.75

GRE: 309. 5.0 on writing

Total HCE hours: 234+

Total PCE hours: 1,800+

Shadowing hours: 64

Other volunteer hours: 1,120

LORs: 1 PA / advisor, 1 professor, 1 PT from PCE, 1 clinical psychologist from HCE 

How many times did you apply?:  Once

Age: 23

Gender: Female

Why PA? Detective work in medicine, flexibility of specialty, speed of school, work life balance!

How many programs did you apply to? 12

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 6 interview offers (this far). Attended 4. Accepted at 2 so far.

Where will you be attending? University of Pacific in Sacramento, CA

Anything you found surprising about interviews? Finally having fun & enjoying the process once I got the first interview jitters out!! Really enjoyed the process, meeting people, seeing the schools, the free food! (Haha). And MMI was FUN!

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps) you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or interview process? Paprogramsearch.com helped me find all the schools that I fit the requirements for The PA school interview guide for prep for interviews helped me feel more confident! Looked at the PA school interview course, wish I could have used it more!!

Any other advice for other pre-PA students? Enjoy the journey! Know it’s a long haul and takes tons of work & sacrifice, but it is all worth it once you get that YES from a school! And you will get it, so keep trying!

Where can we find you? (website, instagram, etc)  My instagram is: @morganbrandt10

Accepted: Geena - University of Pittsburgh

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Undergraduate Education: Psychology & Neuroscience at the University of Pittsburgh

Overall GPA: 3.53

Science GPA: 3.4

GRE: 304

Total HCE Hours: 400

Total PCE Hours: 2,900

Shadowing Hours: 55

Other Volunteer Hours: 435

LORs: 5: one Chemistry professor, one research PI, one PA, one from boss at hospital, and one Neuroscience professor

How many times did you apply? 1

Age: 23

Gender: Female

Why PA? I have worked for 3 years at a trauma hospital and have fallen in love with the role of a PA. PAs are able to talk with the patients and make decisions regarding diagnosis/care/etc. I love the autonomy of the profession and the flexibility!

How many programs did you apply to? 14

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 7 offered. Attended 5. Accepted to 3 so far. Declined other interviews because I committed to Pitt

Where will you be attending? University of Pittsburgh

Anything you found surprising about interviews? They really wanted to get to know me

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps, etc…) that you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or the interview process? The Physician Assistant Interview Guide and How to Ace the PA Interview

Any other advice for Pre-PA students? Get that experience and absorb every bit of information you can from everyone!!

Where can we find you? On Instagram @geenie_ina_bottlex


Accepted: Jennifer - University of Texas - Medical Branch

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Undergraduate Education: University of North Texas

Overall GPA: 4.0

Science GPA: 4.0

GRE: 299 (149 - Verbal, 150 - Quantitative, 4.0 - Analytical Writing)

Total HCE Hours: 5,091 hours as Pharmacy Technician

Shadowing Hours: 74 hours (Ortho PA, Pediatric PA, Primary Care PA)

Other Volunteer Hours: 63 hours (Hospice Volunteer)

LORs: 4 (1 PA I shadowed, 2 Pharmacists I worked with, and my Biology/Genetics Professor)

How many times did you apply? 1

Age: 23

Gender: Female

How many programs did you apply to? 6

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? Got 5 interview invites and I only attended 4 of them. I received 2 rejections, a waitlist, and an acceptance.

Where will you be attending? University of Texas - Medical Branch

Anything you found surprising about interviews? In my experience they were a lot more laid back than I had anticipated. By my last interview I felt more confident going into it about just being myself and being honest.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps, etc…) that you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or the interview process? The PA Platform

Any other advice for Pre-PA students? Be yourself in interviews and utilize your resources for advice and help with the application process. Practice interviewing!

Where can we find you? On Instagram @jennifer_lambert


What to Do During the Application Waiting Game

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The Waiting Game

Let me start off by saying, I LOVE getting messages from you all. A good portion of the message I get are from first time applicants and reapplicants and one of their main concerns is, “What do I do after I submit my application”.

I have been there. You’ve worked really hard, you’ve been taking classes, done the volunteering, done the patient care experience, worked on your applications, done your personal statement, put in all this time and effort and money to you get to the point of applying to PA School.

You hustle really hard to get your applications submitted by the deadline that you’ve chosen or the schools’ deadlines and then after you push submit, you just sit there and you don't know what to do. Then you get really anxious and check your email 500 times a day because you're just waiting on those interview invites. Then you get an email from a school and you get really excited and you open it and it's just a confirmation telling you they got your application, with no information.

Talk about discouraging. Then you wait some more and you may get another email… that’s a rejection and that stinks and hurts and makes you feel like all this effort was for nothing. BUT then maybe that same day you get an interview invite. I just want you to realize that this process is so random, and I understand that it is so, so stressful and not really much fun. The day you get an interview is fun but the right after that your nerves kick in and you have a whole, whole other thing to worry about.

Today I just wanted to talk about that a little bit and go through some things that you can be doing while you're in that waiting period so at least you can calm yourself down but also feel like you're being proactive in that time period.

PA school has become very competitive and because of that, my advice to anyone whether it's your first time applying, whether you're reapplying, is to go into the cycle with the mindset of you're going to have to reapply. Even if your application is stellar, you can't think of anything else you need to do better, and you feel very confident still find ways to improve.

Think about having to reapply because here is an example of what your DON’T want to have happen:

Let's say you applied in May and then you kind of were like, “Okay I've applied I'm still waiting to hear back” and you decide to go, I don't know travel the world for a year. The next April you haven't heard anything from any schools you’ve gotten a couple rejection but you still want to go to PA school. When you go to reapply, your application will be the same and I'm and you can't expect any different or better result if you haven't improved your application.

At that point you need to have improved. You need to have things so you can say: ”Over this past year, this is what I've been doing differently” and then when those schools get your application for the second time, they need to be able to compare them and go, “You know this person really wants this and they've been working hard this past year to reach their goals.”

That's a mistake that some people make and just to clarify, when it comes to reapplying, a school only knows that you're a reapplicant if you have applied there previously. If you’ve submitted your application to a school and then you submit again the next year, they will know you're a reapplicant. If you submitted to school A and the next year you submit to school B, school B will not know that you’ve applied before unless you tell them. If you allude to it your personal statement or tell them at an interview, then they may be able to understand that. That’s one thing to take taking into consideration.

One thing I’d recommend, is try to be patient. It's not fun and like I said, I totally get the anxiety and stress that comes with it. Once you’ve turned everything in, there’s really not that much that you can do. You can’t change your application, so you can't go back in and edit things. Let’s say you go back in and you're pouring over your application and you realize there's a typo, you can't change it. At that point, you might as well just let it go. Don't go back into your application and double, triple check it after you’ve submitted. Because you're not going to be able to change any mistakes.

Now if you notice, let’s say you made a huge mistake. Let’s say you accidentally entered your hours completely wrong. At that point you still can't fix it through CASPA but you may need to contact the school's individually to give them an update on that and whether they take that into account or not is up to them, because some schools will only really consider what is on your application.

Each school has a different process and a different timeline and so if you’ve heard from one and haven’t from another, that doesn't necessarily mean anything, they just do things differently.

One thing I like to tell people to do and this is what I did, is to check the PA forums. So physicianassistantforum.com is a great community where people are always chatting and each school has a different thread and you can see for that application cycle and you can look at it and see if people are getting interviews or rejections and that can help you a little bit.

I want to say something about that because I do not want you to obsess over it and it can be easy do that when you get on the you just start checking them and you go, “Oh my gosh, Susie got an interview and I haven't heard back and her stats are so good and mine are so terrible.” Try not to compare yourself it is a small subset of people who are on the forum and it is not everyone whose applying, it is not everyone who is going to be accepted so don't let them be discouraging to you but just use them as a timeline check.

Let’s say that you applied a month ago and everyone’s gotten confirmations and you’ve heard nothing, you’ve haven’t even gotten a confirmation that they have your application. At that point, it may be worth reaching out and saying, “Hey, I’ve applied, I’ve submitted my fees, I’ve submitted my application, have y’all looked at it or received it?” That can help you if you want to make sure you are on the same page as everyone else, so something to keep in mind there. You know with working towards reapplying even though that's not what any of us want to do. You want to look at your application very critically and that's what we do in our pre-pa assessment and try to figure out what you can do better and what you can improve on, to make yourself stand out and show that you've improved for next cycle, when you potentially have to apply again.

Look at every part of your application, look at your coursework, do you have B’s or better in all of your prerequisite courses? How are your GPAs, is it competitive or do you need to keep working towards classes...? How many patient care hours do you have? What kind of variety do you have? What's the quality of your patient care experience? What about volunteering? Have you done some volunteering in your community to show your commitment to your area and your commitment to the underserved? Doesn't even necessarily have to be something medical, but you need to show that you have a passion for helping people. You can't go to an interview and say, “Yeah, I want to help people” if you've never done it. So you need to be showing that. Have you gotten shadowing hours in multiple areas, to show that you really understand the PA profession and know what you're getting yourself into? All these things are important.

Do you have strong letters of recommendations? Is your personal statement really good…? It should be because that's what's going to get you the interview, once you've checked all the boxes. These are all things that you want to look at and think about while you're in the process of making sure your application is ready for PA school. If you do have to reapply and again, we hope you don’t, but if you do, you want for that improvement.

Find some distractions and relax. If you do get into PA school, once you start it is full steam ahead so you really want to take that time even though you're probably working and working toward getting improvements on your application but spend time with your family and your friends enjoy yourself. You may have to move for PA school, who knows, but try to distract yourself.

Start working out, pick up a skill cooking, whatever but pick a skill so that you are not constantly stressing out and thinking about it. I know, easier said than done but do your best.

You can update programs periodically and so, I talked about earlier checking in with programs if you feel like you maybe should have heard something. Which is fine but also let's say that you do something, let’s say you going on a medical mission trip or you have gained a substantial more amount of hours or you do some more shadowing, you finish a course you get a good grade, you update a prerequisite, whatever. At that point you can update the programs. Now you can update these things in CASPA, and they will send out an update to the programs but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the programs look at it. What I would recommend is no more than once a month, send in an email to whoever is the head of admissions or the General Admissions email and just say, “Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I've gotten four hundred more hours, will you please update my file, thank you.” Short and sweet, not begging for anything but that does a couple things. It shows them you're still working towards this goal. It also shows them you’re still available and still interested. It's kind of a way to let that school know that you would like to hear back from them and you really are interested in their program. Don’t do it too much, don't bother them, don’t become an annoyance but you can periodically give them some updates.

Now another thing is go ahead and start preparing for interviews. If you submitted your application, you have no idea when that interview invite may come in and this can be very frustrating because you may get very little notice. I’ve gotten emails from people who have been asked to come to an interview, the next day if they were near a local program. I mean for me, I think I had for one interview about a month's notice and for one about 1-2 weeks but it is not uncommon for there to be a very short period of time for you to prepare and so you want to go ahead and start working on that. With preparing for interviews, I’ve done a lot of podcast interview episodes about interview. You can definitely check out the PA school interview guide (and now course!), that's the book I wrote about interviewing. There's over 300 questions in there and so that's one way to prepare talking to PAs, family members, friends, kind of getting them to quiz you. Doing some mock interviews, really just going ahead and practicing so that when that interview comes, even though you'll be nervous you may not be quite as nervous as you would have been if you are scrambling last minute to try to prepare.

Those are a few things you can do and again I just want you to know that waiting is the hardest and so after you wait, after submitting your application for the interview, then you have a whole other waiting process of waiting to hear back from your interview. Gosh that may even be worse, I’m not sure, but in that period at that point, there’s not anything you can do and so you may get the call that you're accepted, which is awesome. You may get put on a waitlist, which is better than nothing and uhm, at this point even to get an interview or put on waitlist is a huge deal and people come off waitlist all the time. Then you may get a rejection and if you do, if you're rejected from a school, either right before you get an interview or after, reach out to that program. See what they suggest you improve on, see what part of your application they didn't feel was adequate or didn't fit with their programs so that you can improve yourself, if possible.

Those are my tips for today! Let me know in the comments if there are any other questions I can answer for you!


Accepted: Taylor - Campbell University

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Undergraduate Education: Campbell University

GRE: 309, 4.5

Total PCE Hours: 2,112

Shadowing Hours: 70

Other Volunteer Hours: About 400 throughout undergrad career

LORs: 1 Professor , 2 Cardio PAs that I had shadowed the most

How many times did you apply? 1

Age: 20

Gender: Female

Why PA? I love the extra time that we get to spend with patients and the chance to build relationships with them. I also love the ability to switch between specialties because medicine has so many interesting areas.

How many programs did you apply to? 2, Campbell University and East Carolina University

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? I received interview offers from both schools but only went to Campbell’s.

Where will you be attending? Campbell University, dual MPH and MPAP

Why did you choose a program that also has a public health component? I chose to do the public health dual component because I know it will allow me to better understand my future patients' background. There's so much more to a person than their physical health, and I want to be able to see each patient as a whole. Public health will provide that extra information on what my patients go through in their daily lives that they may not outright tell me.

How do you plan on using an MPH in the future? While I know that I will learn so much in PA school, I want to use the MPH to be better equipped to work in a rural area. Campbell University's public health program focuses on underserved, rural populations, which will prepare me as a PA to serve patients that may not have access to everything that they need to live a "healthy" life. I also strive to be an advocate for disease prevention and lifestyle changes that can improve one's health long before they acquire an illness, and public health will teach me the best ways to do this.

Anything you found surprising about interviews? Campbell University had such a relaxed and welcoming interview process! The question of “tell me about yourself” is harder than it sounds.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps, etc…) that you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or the interview process? Savanna Perry’s Interview book and mock interview!!

Any other advice for Pre-PA students? Apply early and have most everything ready to input into CASPA when it opens! Get multiple people to do mock interviews with!

Where can we find you? On Instagram @taylor.dw


Accepted: Emily - University of Kentucky

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Undergraduate Education: B.S. in Human Nutrition from University of KentuckyOverall GPA: 3.63

Science GPA: 3.46

GRE: 302

Total HCE Hours: 800 - Medical Office Assistant (200), Oncology Training Program (600)

Total PCE Hours: 318 at time of application - nutritional counseling, physical therapy tech, patient care tech

Shadowing Hours: 132 PA-C, 268 MD

Other Volunteer Hours: 1000+ American Cancer Society, mission trips, teaching experience, and campus ministry volunteering

LORs: 1 Professor and PA-C, 1 Professor, 1 Cardio PA-C

How many times did you apply? 1

Age: 22

Gender: Female

How many programs did you apply to? 1

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? 1 interview and acceptance!

Where will you be attending? University of Kentucky

Anything you found surprising about interviews? The interviews were very laid back and conversational. I learned a lot about my interviewers and felt very comfortable with the program and faculty.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps, etc…) that you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or the interview process? I used Savanna's PA Interview Guide as well as a mock interview with Sam and both were a huge help!

Any other advice for Pre-PA students? Don't obsessively compare yourself to other applicants stats, and be confident in yourself and what makes you unique! You need to exude confidence in your personal statement and your interview - if you don't know that you're capable of being a PA, how will they?

Where can we find you? On Instagram @emilybertram


Tips for Less CASPA Stress

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When I started this post, I was trying to come up with a number so this could be titled, The Five Things You Need to Know About CASPA, but I couldn’t because once I started to write about it, I would think of new things that I wanted to cover also. Today, I am going to go over the main things that will help create less CASPA stress but I want to encourage you to check out The Pre-PA Club Facebook group where thousands of pre-PAs are asking and answering questions for one another. Alot of the questions are good ones that pop up every application cycle and make sure to check out my Youtube video All About CASPA - How to Apply for PA School! It’s a really great resource to have!

CASPA GPA

All of this is explained in the CASPA FAQ that they have online and I highly recommend reading through the entire thing, it is definitely worth your time. It can still be a little bit confusing until you're actually applying on the CASPA website though. However, if you are still confused, make sure to check out my Youtube video where I go through a CASPA walkthrough and give tips for PA school. and Everyone seems to be most concerned about GPA. CASPA calculates a bunch of different GPAs, like a whole page worth. The main ones you need to be concerned with are you overall and your science GPA. Here is a post I wrote that can help you determine your CASPA. In this post, you can break down how they calculate your CASPA GPA. In regards to GPA, the main point I want to emphasize is that every single grade from every single course you have ever taken goes into your CAPSA GPA. No courses are averaged. If you retook a class and your school “replaced” the grade, CASPA will not do that. They will see that you took O Chem three times and got an C, B, and an A. They will not average these grades together, they just count them all in the calculation. Most schools are going to take that highest grade into consideration. There are a few that will say we want your initial attempt but that's not very common. Every grade goes into the GPA calculations.

How to Calculate Your CASPA GPA

CASPA does not calculate your GPA until you've submitted your application. So there is no way to know exactly what your CASPA GPA will be before you submit. Once you've submitted and it's been verified and they go through all your coursework, that's when those GPAs are calculated. You'll be able to go back into your application and see that. For a lot of people, their CASPA GPA is less than what they expected. It may be different than the GPA that's on your transcripts because, if you did repeat courses, a lot of schools like universities will not include that first attempt in their calculations. This can be a shock to a lot of people and that's why I do recommend trying to figure out if you can with the GPA are ahead of time and that blog post I mentioned has a GPA calculator where you can plug in your grades.

We can do this for you at The PA Platform. We have a Pre-PA Assessment service where we do GPA only and try to estimate that for you with an interactive Excel document. Just don't be surprised if your GPA are different and most likely lower. Every once in a while, someone’s CASPA GPA will be high which is awesome but for the most part, it’s a rude awakening for a lot of people and can even take you out of the running for a program if your CASPA GPA drops you below that 3.0 mark.

Can my GPA Improve in the Same Application Cycle?

The second point I want to make about CASPA GPA is after you have been verified, they WILL NOT recalculate your GPA again for the application cycle. Let me try to explain this. Let's say that you're currently taking classes, and your semester is about to end. You've already submitted your application because you wanted to get it in for schools that had a July or August deadline, but you're thinking that if you wait for other schools that have a later deadline, you can submit these courses and it will boost your GPA. That's not how it works. Those GPAs that come up and your initial application will be the ones that are calculated and sent to the schools. It doesn’t matter how much new coursework you add, your CASPA GPA will not be recalculated until the next application cycle. This is something to think about if you are applying to a future cycle, especially when it comes to spring and summer courses because CASPA opens in April but if you submit in April and you are waiting for the spring semester to finish up, those new classes and grades will not be included until NEXT April when you apply again.

Some schools will allow you to send them an update and say, ‘I completed XYZ course’ and take that into consideration but some schools will not, they strictly go by what's on your application. That's really important because it messes up a lot of people and I see this over and over coming up in the Facebook group and the discussions.

What Carries Over Cycle to Cycle?

Another question that I'm getting is about GRE scores and what carries over. Remember that hypothetically anything that you enter, will carry over as long as it's not a letter of recommendation or your personal statement. Letters of recommendation have to be submitted every single cycle and your personal statements should be entered every cycle. If you've sent a GRE a score to a specific school (because each school has their own code), if you sent your transcripts, if you've entered experience, hypothetically that should all be there every once in a while, there are issues and CASPA has to reset something and it all gets lost. You can't bank on that and CASPA shouldn't be the only place you have your information, but usually things carry over.

CASPA does not currently use anything like InnerFolio to save letters and so that's something to take into consideration too. Important to note, those letters have to come directly from the letter writers they cannot come from you and they're submitted electronically. I've written letters for people, first I have to sign in and then I had to answer some questions on a scale about the person — their work ethic and whether you recommend them— then you upload the letter and it sent into CASPA.

You can add more programs if you want to apply to more perks after your initial submission, and you can add more experiences. If you are getting additional hours, have switched jobs, or shadowing more, volunteering more, you can. You cannot edit an old entry for experience but you can add a new one which will get sent out to the programs as an update — whether or not they look at that is going to be program specific, so you may want to shoot them a separate update, let them know that you are still working towards this goal, that you're still available, and that you are ready and willing to come in for an interview.

Something that is new on The PA Platform is the PA programs map. Go there you will see that we have a map now this interactive as every state and every program listed right now it just has their contact information, we will be slowly going to be adding more info as people tell us what they think is going to be most helpful, but that makes it super easy for you to find the email address, phone number and website link. That is a tool that you can use, just to reach out to those schools and give them those updates if you need to, those are the main basics that I've been seen issues with as far as CASPA goes right now.

If there is something that I missed or something you want more information on, let me know in the comments below! Thank you for reading. If you would like to listen to this in a podcast format, you can do so here.

Other helpful CASPA Posts:

CAPSA Walkthrough and Tips - Podcast

All About CASPA

My Top 5 CASPA Tips

Accepted: Nicole - Marquette University Accelerated Program

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Undergraduate education: Sophomore Biomedical Science major at Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI

 Do you still get a Bachelor's degree in an accelerated program? How does that work?

In order to apply to Marquette’s accelerated program, you need to be a biomedical science major on the pre-PA track in the college of health sciences at Marquette University. You can begin applying after completing your freshman year of undergraduate studies. You are not able to apply as an external undergraduate applicant. Certain prerequisite classes must be completed during your freshman and sophomore year in order to be eligible. As a freshman, you would be admitted directly into the biomedical sciences major as a pre-PA student and have the opportunity to graduate with a bachelor’s degree in biomedical sciences and, if accepted into the program, a master’s in physician assistant studies in as few as five years. Admitted students complete their undergraduate degree in biomedical sciences during the first two years of the physician assistant program. A master of physician assistant studies is awarded upon graduation from the PA program. Marquette also offers a postgraduate emergency medicine fellowship for PAs.

Overall GPA: 3.91

Science GPA: 3.82

GRE: As a sophomore undergraduate applicant I was not required to take the GRE

Total HCE hours: 12 (hospital volunteering)

Total PCE hours: 648 (CNA at a senior memory care facility)

 Shadowing hours: 20 (ER Doctor, ER PA, and Dermatology PA)

 Other volunteer hours: 1500 (community leadership organization in my hometown), 40 (serving meals to the homeless and volunteering at a food pantry), and I’m involved in a sorority, Pi Beta Phi

LORs: 3 (one from a theology professor, one from my supervisor at my CNA job, and one from the head of my community organization in my hometown)

How many times did you apply? Once

Age: 20

Gender: Female

What made you want to pursue an accelerated program?

I’ve known that I want to pursue a career in medicine from a young age. I first discovered the PA profession in my sophomore year of high school. I talked to a couple of family friends that were enrolled in PA programs and I decided that it was something that I wanted to commit to. I got my CNA certificate during my junior year of high school and began to work on accumulating PCE my senior year of high school. I’ve known for a while that I want to become a PA, so Marquette’s program was a natural choice for me when I started applying to colleges. I am certain that becoming a PA is the correct path for me and I saw no reason to wait to begin pursuing my future career.

 Do you feel nervous that you'll be too young or not ready by graduating so early from PA school?
Initially I was a little nervous about this going into my interview with respect to how I would compare to older students. Now that I’ve been accepted into the program, I’m worried about it less. Marquette prepares all students equally well and has an excellent faculty-student ratio, so I feel that I will be just as prepared as my older classmates upon graduation.

 What advice would you give to someone considering an accelerated/combined program? 
Do research and shadowing to make sure that the PA profession is right for you. Try to start on PCE hours as soon as you can to show your commitment to pursuing the profession. Many technical colleges offer CNA programs for high school students, and it’s a flexible job to have during school while accumulating PCE. If you’re still in high school and serious about pursuing an accelerated PA program, you can find a list of colleges offering them here: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/accelerated-physician-assistant-programs. If you’re already a student at a university that offers an accelerated program, I would recommend meeting with your advisor. My advisor was extremely knowledgeable and even helped me with CASPA questions and my personal statement during the summer over email!

How many programs did you apply to? 
One

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes?
One, and I was accepted!

Where will you be attending?
Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI

Any red flags on your application? 
None, besides being a young applicant

Anything you found surprising about interviews?

I was told going into my interview that the interviewers would be looking for maturity especially in sophomore applicants. I was also told, however, that the interviews with Marquette staff would not be very high pressure, since they were just trying to get to know you. I found that my interview personally felt more formal, and that the questions were a bit deeper than I had expected. I still felt that I was well prepared though, since I used Savanna’s book as reference. I found it better to be a bit over prepared so that I wasn’t too surprised by any of their questions.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps) you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or interview process? 
I used My PA Resource for assistance with my personal statement. I used the PA Platform website and podcast for CASPA tips and help with my personal statement as well. I also used Savanna’s book “Physician Assistant Interview Guide” to prepare for my interview. I recommend going to a mock interview night if you are able to through your university.

 Any other advice for other pre-PA students?
Take advantage of online resources! I found them incredibly helpful during my CASPA application and in preparation for my interview. If you’re feeling certain about becoming a PA, I would definitely suggest considering an accelerated program such as the one offered at Marquette University. They allow you to save time and money, and to challenge yourself!

Where can we find you? (website, instagram, etc)

@nicolereitzner on Instagram or Facebook and Linkedin I’m sure I’ll post about my PA journey starting in the fall, and I’m open to answering any additional questions about accelerated PA programs!


Pre-PA Club FAQ

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This week, I am sharing a Q&A session I had with a Pre-PA Club that I recently Skyped into. If you are apart of a Pre-PA Club, let me know! I would love to Skype in and chat with you all. This club had a lot of great questions that I think you all will benefit from too :)

Q: Since we are talking about hours, are there any general rules of thumb, how many hours one year of full time work would translate to?

A: In general, one year of full time work is 2,000 hours. You can kind of split that up too so a year working part time is about 1,000 hours or if you work full time for half a year that's about 1,000 hours.

Q: Is there a preference for the kind of healthcare hours, such as being a medical assistant?

It depends on the programs you're applying to that. That's very program dependent whether experience counts or how it counts or how it adds up. Definitely look at the programs you're interested in, if they don't specifically have your experience listed as what they consider it on the website. Ask them. These programs are very happy to help and answer questions. and they would even prefer you ask rather than just apply and not have the experience that they are looking for. When you contact them, I personally prefer email for contact because it leaves a paper trail. If they were to come back and say, “oh, that doesn't fit what we are requiring”, you say well I actually asked and he said it did on this date — just to go have something to fall back on. Now, whether that would do anything or not, because they have the final say, who knows. I would just double check the websites, and there's just nothing set across the board every single person is so different.

Q: I know you mentioned you have a whole book about interviews, but do you have any short tips you can give us for people apply soon and have upcoming interviews?

I could talk about interviews forever and ever and which I do during the interview course. One of my key point is that the biggest mistakes I see in interviews, is a lack of confidence. I know you're nervous. Everyone's nervous, you just have to kind of accept that and not let that get in the way. The other thing I see is people not giving thorough, complete answers. a lot of people stay very superficial with their answers. A good rule of thumb, if what you're saying could be looked up on Google, it's too generic. It needs to be personal. You've got to show them who you are.

If you get to the point of having an interview that's a big deal because at this point in time schools are getting thousands of applications. They then have to take that number down to a couple hundred maybe that will get interviews. Usually schools will interview 2-4 people for one spot. I mean you're looking at a 50% chance that you're going to get accepted. At that point this even playing field where the schools are really just looking to see if you're a normal person. If you would fit in well with their class because they do have some things that they tend to look for. Plus they want to make sure you like the program. It's just a little bit of a hurdle but if you can get past them and show them that you're ready for PA school.

Lastly, keep in mind that you are applying for an interview for PA school you're not applying for a position as a PA. So no matter how much experience you have or shadowing or whatever like you've got to assume the role of a student and show that you're going to be able to succeed academically and be someone who is receptive to instruction and ready to get in there and learn. You want that school to be the place that you do that.

It comes down to just really the confidence is the big thing and then not any major red flags. An example being, how you couldn't get into med school or not knowing the name of your profession and saying physician's assistant, some people are really, really care about that. Just try to show yourself but also, not being too nervous. Every interview is different too. Some of them like the MMIs don't give you as much of a chance to show your personal background is more about being able to show different personality traits and how you interact with patients how you communicate. You have to really be ready for anything and ready to walk in, and do the best you can. It’s only a few hours and you need to leave everything on the table.

Q: It’s been a while since I looked at CASPA but there is a part that asks if you are apart of any organizations. Do you recommend joining AAPA or any other paid organizations?

Yeah, you can definitely list like your list your society which would be great. I think there is value in being involved in either state or national organizations even on a pre-PA level. I don't know how y'all state’s society, if it's really involved or not. I know some, some allow for pre-PAs, some don't. The way I look at it is, for example, let's say you apply and you had the same stats as another person. Is this school looking at two different people to your applications, trying to differentiate them, and they see okay we'll see student A is a member of AAPA and they are supporting the profession. That shows a level of involvement that they hope will continue as a PA student and as a PA where you're supporting your profession as a whole. You’re not just somebody who goes to work and goes home. So I think it is recommended to join a state or national society. I don't think it's 100% necessary but do you think it's that gold star that makes them go, “Oh, well this person is actually invested in this”, and it's that little like extra sprinkle on your application.

Q: What kind of questions should you ask the faculty at the end of your interview with a school? You want to come up with something, right?

Yes, but you've got to feel out the situation and feel out your interviewers. You can't necessarily have a set thing you're going to ask because you may just like get a weird vibe or it may be like short on time. You just have to see how it goes. There's a few different ways to approach it. Number one, any questions that you feel like you really want to know the answer to that aren't already answered online, at a tour or by student, definitely use that opportunity to ask those questions. Whether that's about life on campus or rotations or advising whatever you really want information about to make your decision about that program, this is the opportunity. Beyond that, I think it's most effective (and I think interviewers like it the most) if you ask personal questions. That would be, asking “How did you end up working at this school” or “What specialties have you worked in” or “What has been your favorite specialty you worked in”. My favorite techniques to is to turn around and ask a question that they asked you. What I mean by that is, they asked you a question that was unique or interesting, ask them the same one. I did that in my interviews. They asked me, “If you got any other job besides being a PA what would you do” and so when they asked me if I had questions for them, I asked them that same question. I think they weren’t thrown off by it, but they mentioned no one's asked us that before. I think they kind of enjoyed getting to answer something too.

Another thing is to do is avoid questions that seem to show any doubt about the program. For example, “What can I tutoring you have available” or “What do you do to make sure students pass PANCE” or “What do you do if a student fails a test”. You don't want to ask any questions that indicate you're planning on failing. That just doesn't look good on you. It doesn't show confidence in the program. That's not the place to ask those questions, ask them anonymously online, if you really need to, but, not the place in your interview you want to be as positive and optimistic as possible.

Q: How do you go about pursuing a specialization?

There really isn't necessarily one, that is kind of changing a little bit, but you don't specialize at all in PA school. If you want to choose something to do your electives and you can, but that's still not considered specializing in any way. Once you graduate from PA school you have a couple options, you can go straight to a job, get trained on the job as supervising position. There are some now PA residences and fellowship programs where you can go specialize but it still doesn't mean that you're stuck in one career. Unlike a residency, after med school where that's all you can do unless you go to another residency. If you go to PA school residency for emergency medicine hate it, you don't even have to work with that residency ever again and you can switch to something else. There's the general boards for a PAs and then there are some specific tests in different areas if you want to show your knowledge in a certain area but those as of right now aren’t required and aren’t typically like a job requirement or even if someone's looking for a hire.

Q: Do you have some tips for Personal Statements?

I just did a podcast episode about personal statements. I have a lot of personal statement pet peeves because I read a lot of them but they best personal statements that I read are ones that don’t try to be too dramatic or fancy or anything. They simply answer the question of why that applicant wants to be a PA. When I am done reading it, I feel like I actually know the person and I am like, “Oh, I feel like I know you and I understand what brought you to this point and why you want to do this and I feel goo about you being a PA”.

It’s important to use stories and examples but make sure they are relevant. People will have this story they want to use but it’s kind of a reach and it doesn’t specifically relate to why you want to be a PA and it doesn’t really have a place in the personal statement. I would say started at least in January before you apply to PA school that gives you enough time and you can definitely be making notes ahead of time about what you want to put in it. Before you get to CASPA, before you get to applications, try to have it ready to go. It’s going to consume a lot of your headspace and you really want to be able to focus on your application when you get to that point and not be working on your personal statement. It’s something you can work on ahead of time and edit it forever and never feel like it’s good enough. Eventually you have to get it to the point where you are ready to submit and just leave it.

Q: There are a bunch of reasons I want to be a PA and some of them are not as romantic as others but one of them is it’s a masters level program that when I am done, I can raise a family. Should salary be omitted as a reason to want to be a PA?

My personal opinion is that I don't encourage putting on your application or in your essay for a couple of reasons. So number one, you have to think by your audience, it's an admissions person who is part of the program. They really want people who want to do this job. We all know the perks of being a PA — it's flexible you can switch specialties. there a good salary — that's why we're all here, right? But, we also want to help people and patients, and so I want to know more about those pivotal moments that got you to this decision rather than just you're excited about the perks of their career. While this does effect most people's decisions, including my own, especially like being able to graduate quicker and all that, I don't think talking about how it gives you more flexibility at home or anything like that is something that should be in your essay because I think that's a personal choice. No matter what your career is — whether you're a PA, physician, whatever that's up to you. At my old practice before I switched, I worked more than any of the doctors they all work less than me, and that was their decision, so they could be home with their family was to you that and have PAs who are more. Whereas, the practice I'm at now. I work the least of anyone there and then there's another PA there who works more than the doctors, so it's it all just kind of varies, but I think for your personal statement purposes, the main thing in there as far as your reasons, it should be like the job itself like talking about the roles and responsibilities, what you do on a daily basis, and teamwork. That's another pet peeve of mine — if a personal statement never mentioned the collaboration with a physician that raises serious doubts for me, that you understand what a PA is. Yes, we talked about independence and autonomy, but ultimately there is a collaboration, there is a teamwork involved with being a PA and that's really, really important to show that you understand, because that is a quick way to let schools know that they need to cut you out of the running is if they feel like you're someone who's going to come in there be a cowboy and just not be respectful to the profession as a whole.

Q: When is a good time to take the GRE? How long should you prepare for it and what kind of scores are schools looking for?

Ideally, you know, at least six months before you apply because that gives you enough time to retake it, and you don't want to take it too early because it can expire. It lasts for five years so ideally about six months before, as far as studying. Don't do what I did, I studied for a week, which was not wise, but the time was just what I could make work. I recommend 1-3 months, depending on your schedule and how much time you can devote to it is adequate for studying. It depends on what kind of test taker you are. I know that I'm pretty good at standardized tests, I may not be good at chemistry test but I, on a standardized test can typically do well. My husband will tell you he's awful at standardized tests. He's like I'm so glad you didn't take the MCAT because I think you have done than me. Now schools are doing PA-CAT, don't be freaked out about that.

The one thing it's really hard to study for quickly is vocab and that's what I found in my one week of study. I wished I had, gotten some flashcards, downloaded the vocab app, done something to where I was constantly working on that. The other stuff is a lot more strategy based so you can kind of practice it and get a feel for it. Some schools will have a set score minimum, some will say their averages across the board, the general expectation is around a 300 combined score so your math and verbal, writing doesn't matter for the most part, and greater than 50% are in both sections. If you do really great in one, like 90% job with other one you're like, 10%, you may want to retake try to get that 10% up, and the GRE is interesting because it is an area that you can keep working on you can repeat it, and try to do better and schools are going to look at that highest score.

Q: If your GPA and CASPA is lower than what you had expected, if you retake classes, will it be recalculated next time?

If you retake classes and you have to reapply, you will send in those grades and then your GPA will be recalculated. Just keep in mind if you send in new grades while it's in the same cycle, your GPA will not be recalculated. It has to be a complete new cycle — not like I'm going to add new programs or after I complete this semester. They only calculate your GPA once and for anyone who's like, graduating and applying or anything or finishing a semester, that's another reason to wait till like end May or June because you want those transcripts to be complete you want those grades in by the time you do that. If you do it in April, that whole spring semester will be included, or verified on your application.

Q: Can you tell me what you're experiencing getting married while in PA school?

Yeah, so actually have a whole video on YouTube. If you want to watch like 12 minutes and you're talking about it, but it is not encouraged, or wasn't it my program. They told us that from the beginning, if your friends and family are getting married, go ahead and tell them you won't be there. But personally, we had to make the decision of what was important to us, and that was to get married during school. We didn’t have the option to get married before so we either had to get married during school or wait another year and a half based on breaks. I was living at home the first year which really helped because we were paying for a wedding. My mom was able to help a lot and really got everything done. Being that we were both in grad school level medical programs we really and an understanding of what each together was going through. That first year of school, we would only see each other, maybe once a week. We would try to meet up for lunch or meet the library to study, maybe dinner. We went from being in college where we had a lot of classes together, to that which was fine because we both were just busy and studying had to understand that.

Once we got married, it was a lot better because you were actually around each other with each other more and I was on rotation so my schedule, wasn't that bad. It was kind of like a regular schedule. Plenty of people do it I mean, I got married right in between didactic and clinical year and there were, towards the end of clinical year, a couple breaks. Every time we had a break, there was a wedding. That first break there was three weddings and then the month after school there were a bunch of weddings. I mean relationships started or in some cases, ended during school, but it is definitely possible just based on your priorities. If you watch my videos, you’ll hear how they changed the schedule on us and I almost missed the first week of PA school. It worked out for me and I know other people have done it too.

Thank you all so much for reading and following along! Again, if you are apart of a Pre-PA Club and would like for me to speak at it, just send me an email because I really enjoy doing them!

Accepted: Angelica - University of Florida

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Undergraduate education: B.S in Biology from the University of Florida Class of 2017

Overall GPA: 3.45

Science GPA: 3.27

GRE: 154/154/4.5

Total HCE hours: 952 (all volunteer)

Total PCE hours: 620 at time of application, >2000 by time of matriculation (CNA, MA & now Medical Scribe)

Shadowing hours: 20 

Other volunteer hours: 1237 including 1.5 year of research study

LORs: 4 letters - 1 from research professor/mentor, 1 from previous project manager from volunteering lab, 1 from nurse manager at CNA job and 1 from the executive director of clinic where I volunteered for 3.5 years. They all knew me very well except the nurse manager but I wanted a letter from someone who had seen more of my clinical side. I unfortunately did not get to shadow much by application time and did not have a PA letter.

How many times did you apply?:  Once

Age: 23, I took two gap years

Gender: Female

How many programs did you apply to? 3 Florida programs all near me since I could not move very far 

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? I received two interviews which ended up in 1 waitlist and 1 acceptance.

Any red flags on your application? I'd say the biggest red flag was my low PCE hours when I submitted my application (620 all from being a CNA), my science GPA also isn't stellar and I had a downward slope GPA wise. I did get straight As in some courses I took after college. I had a W in physics 1 course, a D+ in my first semester for chemistry 1 (retaken the following semester where I received an A-) and 3 Cs & 1 C+ (all in science courses). 

Anything you found surprising about interviews? I'd say what was the most surprising is the fact that they were both very encouraging and supportive. Despite this, it is a competitive environment and you have to be on your toes prepared for all types of questions. I think after you receive an interview it is clear the school is interested in what you offer, but you need to stand out in the interview.

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps) you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or interview process? In terms of the interview, yes, I did a lot of research on different types of behavioral and straight forward questions that could be asked. I read Savanna's book and the How to Ace PA interview book which both got me in the right mindset. I was also quizzed by a PA I work with and video-taped. As far as pre-requisites, I recommend using the various resources online! I loved YouTube videos from Khan Academy, Freelance-teacher.com, Organic chemistry as a second language I & II and a few others. Learn your learning style! When it comes to applying, start reading the CASPA FAQ early, if you're applying this coming cycle, start reading it NOW, it'll make applying much simpler. 

Any other advice for other pre-PA students? Apply early (before end of May if you can help it), be in contact with your top schools. I attended open houses, asked questions, introduced myself to the admissions director, sent emails, maintained eye contact during interviews and let my confidence shine through. It is so important to be focused and determined to be admitted. Connections are vital and the earlier you make them the easier the process will be. The PA career is amazing and everyone knows it, so it is definitely getting more competitive. If you have a low GPA and low PCE hours, tailor the schools you apply to but don't let it stop you from applying to a school you love. Your personal statement is your saving grace, pour your whole heart into it. Make sure that your application has a "theme" (for example I did a lot of work with the underserved and was passionate about research, having presented at various universities) so that when someone reads through your application, they can say what you're about in a sentence. This is what makes you stand out, for PA school and any other graduate school program!

Where can we find you? (website, instagram, etc) 

I recently started a website to help those who are struggling with choosing a career in health since it was something that took a lot of my time! It is easy to know you want to be in medicine, but for many it is difficult to pinpoint which career you'd like to pursue. The website is PreHealthPath.Com which offers Pre-PA advice as well.

You can also find me giving out Pre-PA & Pre-Health advice on my instagram @ angelicamaria_pa




Everything You Need to Know About the PA-CAT

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There’s been some chatter recently about a new proposed standardized test for PA school entry called the “PA-CAT” (Physician Assistant College Admissions Test). Think of it as the MCAT of PA school. Let’s jump into the details that are available currently.

For more details, watch now on Youtube!

What is the PA-CAT?

Number one, it’s a test. Think of the PA-CAT as the MCAT of PA school. While medical schools require the MCAT, it seems the PA-CAT was created as a complementary test for PA school. If you actually say it out loud, it makes sense. The goal of the MCAT is to test the actual knowledge that medical students will need to have a grasp on to succeed in their programs. There hasn’t been anything like that for PA school until now. 

This 3 hour test was created by Exam Master, and it includes 180 multiple choice questions based on 12 different subjects pulled from typical PA school prerequisites - anatomy (13%), physiology (13%), general biology (13%), microbiology (9%), general chemistry (11%), organic chemistry (9%), biochemistry (12%), statistics (3%), medical terminology (1%), sociology (4%), psychology (8%), and genetics (4%). These knowledge areas are then divided into determining different aspects based on cognitive level - knowledge, comprehension, application, analysis, evaluation, and synthesis. There is also the inclusion of the Jefferson Scale of Empathy, which is of interest to programs wanting to evaluate a student’s ability to empathize with patients. 

Exam Master states that they hope to provide a test that demonstrates a student’s readiness in the basic sciences that are necessary for a solid foundation in PA school. There are two main PAs involved in the research around this exam - Johnna Yealy from the University of Tampa and Scott Massey from Central Michigan University. Having involvement from PAs in the education sector is a good sign that the PA-CAT is something that will continue moving forward. You can read about the whole research protocol here. The overarching goal is to provide a test that will reliably predict success on the PANCE for programs.

What is the test really like? 

I’ve personally never taken the PA-CAT, so I went to Instagram to get some feedback. Here are the results.:

“I personally felt that the A&P questions were very advanced. Other than that I thought the questions were reasonable.”

“It had anatomy questions, even as specific as to “if they rolled their ankle in this direction, what tendon in the ankle would be affected.” 

“However, I was surprised at how chemistry heavy the PA-CAT was. I’m not sure if it was just because mine was a pilot test at the interview, but we didn’t have any access to the periodic table which made organic chemistry questions on the exam nearly impossible.”

“The only challenging part about the content is that because all PA schools do not require the same pre-reqs, people may or may not have taken courses covering all the material.” 

“I felt that it was heavily focused in biology and physiology. The questions were about information that would have been memorized and learned in those classes. Specific gas points, routes of activation, etc.”

“I think it will be a great indicator as to what kind of knowledge the applicant has currently, which is a huge advantage for students who have a few lower grades on their transcript.” 

“ I hope applicants will at least have a layout of what will be on the exam, similar to the MCAT. But overall, I think it’s a great addition in the future. However, I think it’s going to take a few years before they can officially implement it into the admissions process.”

Overall, everyone I spoke with felt the PA-CAT was a better assessment than the GRE for PA school. Another comment that came up multiple times was in regards to non-traditional applicants or anyone who has been out of school for a while and that it may be very difficult for those students. In interview settings, it seems that the test was optional, but the applicants were informed that the results wouldn’t have any bearing on their acceptance. Some of the students who took the test at orientation did tell me that they didn’t take it very seriously or kind of skipped through thinking it was just an experiment, so I’m not sure how that could affect results of this research. 

“It did not mimic the GRE in any way. It wasn’t about logic or analytical reasoning. And there was no math.” 

“I was right out of undergrad with an exercise science degree. Took a ton of upper level science courses (biochem, 3 physiology courses, 2 anatomy courses, clinical obesity course, etc.) and I found the test to be VERY challenging, especially after a 3 hour interview process.” 

Do I need to take the PA-CAT?

Not unless someone tells you to! The PA-CAT is in experimental phase right now and there are a few programs who have given the exam at interviews or shortly after students begin their program. (You actually can’t even sign up individually currently). The actual study is looking at a sample size of at least 500 comprised of students in the incoming 2018-2019 PA class at ten or more program sites. These students have been given the test at interview sessions (like at the University of Tampa and AT Still) or during orientation after they are already accepted to PA school. 

If you do end up needing to take the test, it’s not necessarily something you’ll be able to study for at this point, but your coursework should prepare you. I say that, but you know there are tons of MCAT resources out there. Those aren’t going to help you right now because the subjects are different. Consider a quick refresher on the included categories, but don’t sweat the test for now. 

What is the difference in the PA-CAT and the GRE?

The PA-CAT is a more specific test than the GRE. The GRE is a general test required for many Master’s level programs (not just healthcare based ones), but it isn’t really a knowledge test. The breakdown of quantitative and qualitative sections show basic skills and test-taking strategy more than your ability to learn what’s necessary to complete PA school. For more information on why the GRE is relevant to PA school, check out this post

Because the PA-CAT is aiming to be more topical and actually test the knowledge that your prerequisites require. Since PA school is so fast, you are expected to have a good understanding on the material before you start the program. The usefulness of the GRE is questioned by admissions committees (listen to this podcast episode to hear the admissions direction Allan Platt from Emory’s opinion)

As of right now, the GRE isn’t required by all programs, and it will take time and a pretty strong movement to make any test a mandatory requirement. Even Exam Master states that this is something that will continue needing to be evaluated and tested. Currently, the PA-CAT has only been given to students who have already been accepted, not just all applicants in general. 

What is the difference in the PA-CAT and the CASPER test?

The PA-CAT and CASPER tests are completely different in that the PA-CAT is focused on scientific knowledge and the CASPER test gauges empathy. The creators and researchers of the PA-CAT didn’t want to completely disregard the importance of empathy though, so they included the Jefferson Scale of Empathy. This is interesting because if the PA-CAT is all inclusive, it could potentially do away with the need for the CASPER test in addition at some point (strictly my speculation). 

Should I be worried about the PA-CAT?

Not right now. Don’t waste your time, stress, or emotions at this time. This test isn’t currently being used to gauge anything significant in regards to PA school admissions. It’s in the testing phase and there still needs to be a good amount of vetting to determine how this test will best be used, how scores should be interpreted, and what the results indicate in regards to a student’s performance. With anything new, schools tend to be slow to adopt, so it will take some time before you need to add the PA-CAT to your checklist. And honestly, without an official breakdown of topics, it would be extremely hard to actually study efficiently for the PA-CAT exam. 

What schools are using the PA-CAT?

Very few so far, and they seem to be using it differently. As of right now, there is no consensus between programs about what tests they should be requiring. 


Will the PA-CAT replace the GRE?

Based on the research outline, it may be the goal that the PA-CAT replaces the GRE or MCAT for PA school. Again, this would take a very long time to implement and the research outcomes will need to be very strong for program’s to gain confidence in making the switch. Since this is the first year of testing, the results will not be complete until after completion of the 1st year of PA school and after completion of a PA program in its entirety. You’ve got a couple of years before any of this could really take effect. 

What does this really mean?

Personally, I don’t put much weight in the GRE. Its strategy, which doesn’t translate to a student’s ability to learn material for the PANCE, which is a knowledge test. To me, it’s a checkbox that some schools require to differentiate candidates. The PA-CAT has potential to change these requirements, but it will take time.

I see the benefits of the test for programs - a way to standardize expectations of prerequisites, rank students in a quantitative way, and determine preparedness for PA school and potential for passing boards. The PAEA’s research currently indicates that GPA is the best factor in predicting how a student will perform in PA school, but there are so many factors that go into that calculation (different levels of course rigor, prior GPA issues that have been resolved), making it not the most fair way to judge applicants. Right now, the GRE doesn’t actually test those things. The PA-CAT would be much more specific, but I also see some barriers to implementation at all programs. 

Since schools don’t currently have the exact same prerequisite requirements, some of the subjects on the test may not be required (namely genetics and organic chemistry). Since it’s developed by a third party separate from any of the PA accrediting bodies, I’m not sure if the goal is collaboration and becoming a standard or just another option. Only time will tell whether the PA-CAT becomes the MCAT of PA school.


For more details, check out this post on the PA-CAT exam from our Pre-PA coach Erin


Accepted: Raelynn - St. Ambrose University

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Undergraduate education: Saint Mary’s University, Minnesota

Overall GPA: 3.6

GPA: 3.3

GRE: 307

Total HCE hours: 4,696

Total PCE hours: 4,436 – I worked as a CNA in a long-term care facility with assisted-living and memory-care units. I then began doing medication administration to residents in this same care facility. Next, I transferred to Mayo Clinic as a PCA in our pre- and post-op surgical units. I really learned so much from being exposed to such a variety of patient care settings. 

Shadowing hours: 200—Always stay professional and be an active learner during shadowing opportunities. Often times, the medical professionals you shadow will turn into references, future contacts, or colleagues. It’s important to start building those professional relationships early on, and to really take advantage of the opportunity to learn as possible during your time shadowing. 

Other volunteer hours: 165 – I volunteered with pediatric inpatients at our children’s hospital wing at Mayo Clinic. Additionally, I volunteered throughout high school and college as a mentor for a young girl through the program Big Brothers, Big Sisters. Volunteering isn’t a second job and doesn’t require extensive hours, find opportunities in your community and spend just a couple hours when your schedule permits—it makes a world of difference!

How many times did you apply?: 3 application cycles

Age: 23

Gender: Female

How many programs did you apply to? 5, 11, 19 each cycle, respectively

How many programs did you interview with and what were the outcomes? I interviewed with 4 programs, and was either accepted or listed as an alternate. 

Where will you be attending? I will be attending St. Ambrose University in Davenport, Iowa. The PA program at SAU is relatively new but graduates highly sought after PAs in our Midwestern area. The new health sciences graduate center and small class sizes were most appealing to me when considering where to further my education. 

Any red flags on your application? My junior year GPA took a hit and brought my overall GPA down due to significant time away from classes because of ankle reconstruction surgery. My coursework during this year was my toughest and missing class because of surgery affected my academic performance. I made sure to address this topic in any interview, and highlighted my active involvement on campus and in the community hoping to show how I gave extended efforts to be involved in many aspects as a student, student-athlete, volunteer, employee, and community member. 

Anything you found surprising about interviews? What surprised me about interviews was actually how laid-back and informal each was. I expected my interviews to be very direct, one-sided, and specific, but each time I interviewed I felt very at-ease and comfortable. The interviews were more of an engaging conversation; the program faculty is trying to get to know you, as well as sell their program to you. When you get an interview, you’re already good enough on paper—be excited about that! Take the interview opportunity to actively communicate with faculty and current students, ask questions, and be interested! Interviewing for me was a surprisingly pleasant experience. 

Were there any helpful resources (books, websites, apps) you used to get through prerequisite courses, the application or interview process? No, I didn’t use any outside resources as far as materials are concerned. What I found most helpful was reaching out to PAs I’ve shadowed for advice during interviews or wording on applications, or current student whom I knew for previous interview questions and information regarding specific programs. 

Any other advice for other pre-PA students?  Take every opportunity to be involved! I was active in the classroom, research opportunities, honor societies, athletics, working part-time, and volunteering at our Mayo children’s hospital as well as with Big Brothers, Big Sisters. A classroom “field trip” or project seeming so irrelevant has the potential to have an impact, and you can use each opportunity to take a leadership role and highlight that involvement on your application. Additionally, make as many connections in health care as possible; the more people you meet and build a professional relationship with will only add to your success towards acceptance and further down the road in your career. I’m happy to answer any further questions and help when able!

Where can we find you? (website, instagram, etc) Instagram: @raelynnn_mae